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版主是干什么吃的!之一

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版主是炒股来的,所以是炒股吃的,

既然是在论坛(主动或者被动)当了版主,就说明一定不是大资金的掌握着不然不会有时间在这儿),一定不是专业股评人士(那是不允许的),一定不是天天赢钱的或者常赢不输的(不然早就去带队伍赚钱了哪有闲功夫在这儿磕牙)。
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ST巴菲特 + 5 + 2 2011-11-8 00:00 果然是高手!!!
cineicinei + 2 2011-11-7 09:12 感谢楼主分享,收藏并加分支持!

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-3 11:13 | 显示全部楼层
这个论坛是大家集合来的,为的学习炒股挣钱的本领,应该是好人们的群体。

所以既然当了版主,就一定要有点热心肠为大家服务,出发点要好是必须的。

当然有时出错了改正就是了,语言起码要干净!那是人格!
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中国国际航空 + 1 2011-11-4 22:21 人民内部矛盾,应以调解为主。慎用死刑 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-3 11:16 | 显示全部楼层
既然是服务,首先是要活跃人气,循循善诱引导正题。

既然要活跃,就不能只是老夫子的一套之乎者也,就要讲究一些艺术,就要讲究一些人群的区别,百花齐放才好。

当然不要毒草啦,当然不要吵架啦!
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中国国际航空 + 1 2011-11-4 22:23 要有为人民服务的精神,以人为本

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-3 11:21 | 显示全部楼层
有些人语言诙谐,妙趣横生,有些诙谐可能有的人不会理解,甚至误解,那就慢慢来,往后看,多年来大家不是看惯了赵本山么,马季么,当然侯宝林见的人少一些,因为这里年轻人多一些。哈哈,有代沟之区别。
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中国国际航空 + 1 2011-11-4 22:27 有权不使过期作废吗?是不是应服务为主?

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-3 11:40 | 显示全部楼层
不管你是使用什么样的语言,只要不是恶意,能够烘托气氛,繁荣论坛,版主只有支持份儿,不敢反对呀。

我上中学时那个将历史的老师,从来就不会只将课本上的,很多故事夹杂在其中,所以我的历史学得不错;我们这里讲技术分析是不是也要讲究点手法啊!不然会很枯燥的,不要人气了,睡都睡着了。

炒股本来应该是有趣的事,没趣了,瓦德拉。
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中国国际航空 + 1 2011-11-4 22:28 向版主致敬!!!

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发表于 2011-11-3 11:52 | 显示全部楼层

回复 #5 妙章山人 的帖子

支持一下!

身在其位就要谋其政

论坛想要发展好,就必须要版主以身作则,起到引导论坛风气维护论坛纪律,保护论坛和谐的作用
否则,这版主的职责与位置,似乎也没什么作用了,有没有都没啥区别,即使大领导安排的行政人员也也要尽心尽力不是
这样,论坛才会养成一种良好的风气和端正的态度,及优良的学习环境

看看现在的技术版。。。。
嗯,实在不敢苟同啊

借妙章山人版主的这个帖子
也算是良言刺耳吧

希望那些斑竹们认真思考思考
希望坛子的管理者也监督一下

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发表于 2011-11-3 12:09 | 显示全部楼层
1.楼主说的确实不错。
2.这里的版主很多,但感觉管理不怎样。
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发表于 2011-11-3 12:28 | 显示全部楼层
有话好好说
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发表于 2011-11-3 12:32 | 显示全部楼层
希望自己看错了。
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发表于 2011-11-3 12:53 | 显示全部楼层
好多版主都不露面,难得山人有此雅兴在自己的自留地里开这样一个与技术有关的贴,加分支持,不然老大不高兴,问题很严重!
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-3 13:58 | 显示全部楼层
山人当这个版主,虽然不是自己希求的,但是本人热爱这里的园地却是真心的,数年来在这里受益匪浅,作为回报只有多发帖多回帖多谈自己的体会拿来交流,久而久之承蒙诸位版主欣赏捧场被推荐了版主,无可奈何之下也只有尽心尽力而已,当然能力有限,精力有限,技术水平有限,拿不出包赢不输的本领来给大家,所以才想到了集众思广仲益的法子制造了一个快乐散户俱乐部的帖子,当时云聚者三百多人,窃以为喜事吧。

那个帖子过去了,山人也曾经四川云游离开数日,只是最近看到这里的氛围不太老好,想着大概是诸多的朋友对斑竹们多有怨气而来,这个帖子就是想着大家尽量的把气撒出来,只要不是骂人和肮脏的语言,就只管说啊,那怕是讽刺的语言也是一种手法,只要对论坛有益。何乐而不为?
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骑牛揾马2008 + 2 2011-11-6 07:50 严重同意楼主的观点!
中国国际航空 + 1 2011-11-4 22:13 斑竹都像您一样论坛就和谐了。

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发表于 2011-11-3 14:18 | 显示全部楼层
支持!#*d1*#
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股指家园

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技术版还是论坛中最喜欢的版块,只是最近杂音太多。
一个巴掌拍不响,实际上有些人在这里吹牛,如果反对的人不去跟贴,不理睬,过十天半个月自然也就不了了之了,大家说是吗?
对于一些吹牛贴,没经过实盘认证,也希望作为管理者不要去偏袒,不是话讲得漂亮就真的做得漂亮。该管理时要管理,不要任之破坏版块里的氛围。
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骑牛揾马2008 + 2 2011-11-6 07:52 吹牛也是艺术,哈哈,不看就是了

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发表于 2011-11-3 17:15 | 显示全部楼层
山人是一肚子委屈呀。#*26*#
山里人支持山人。#*d1*#
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妙章山人 + 18 + 5 2011-11-3 20:22 委屈谈不上,只是有话就说而已。很开心 ...

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发表于 2011-11-3 20:27 | 显示全部楼层
顶一下LZ#bb# !技术版还是有能人的,关键是怎么理解并应用!#bb#
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发表于 2011-11-3 20:51 | 显示全部楼层
交流很重要,作为一个小散,啥都不懂,谁愿意和我交流?#*29*#
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发表于 2011-11-3 21:42 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 妙章山人 于 2011-11-3 11:06 发表
版主是炒股来的,所以是炒股吃的,

既然是在论坛(主动或者被动)当了版主,就说明一定不是大资金的掌握着不然不会有时间在这儿),一定不是专业股评人士(那是不允许的),一定不是天天赢钱的或者常赢不输的(不然早就去带队伍赚钱了哪有闲功夫在这儿磕牙)。

带队伍赚钱去倒是不错的主意,往后闷了可以考虑。
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金菊甲 + 1 2011-11-3 22:01 有创意,佩服!不过,你还是抢吧

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发表于 2011-11-3 21:59 | 显示全部楼层
回复18楼,你把大家的钱都赚走了,还想带队,那你还是抢吧#*29*# #*29*#
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关键是真正的高手都不愿意发言,大家好的东西学不到,论坛逐渐变成了发广告和某些人吵闹的地方
我希望版主有必要使用一些方法使得论坛的高手活跃起来,这样即使有一些杂音,也是正面作用大
#*)*# #*)*#
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发表于 2011-11-3 22:26 | 显示全部楼层

回复 #19 金菊甲 的帖子

I do not want to miscue anyone or confuse anyone. Do not feel bad if you don't understand as none of you is an expert trader.

In forums, there are many many young people who did not learn much in schools. They had calculators instead of learning Arithmatic. So now they are handicapped because they cannot "sense" nor can they think "critically".

To trade and take the full offer of the market, you have to be able to sense and add inference (long term memory pieces) to get PERCEPTION.

Now lets talk about you and your mind and the displays on computers.

You form a partnership with the market. You do your part; the market does its part. There is no risk nor money management.

The market tells, you accept.

As you go on doing this circle of repeated events; a new thing comes into the partnership and it is NOT written down.

I am talking about the TRUST that exists in a partnership where each party is following the agreement made.

The market tells; you accept.

By acquiring knowledge and skills through purposeful experience, a simple profound connection comes into being.

The finite tells of the set of market tells comes to have a connection to a finite set of inferences in your mind that are organized in a spectrum of adjacent inferences.

We need to look at the spectrum and find out where the questions fit in the spectrum in order that my answers connect to other, already present, inferences on each side of each question.

All we need is a few videos of the screen display and you can see what I am talking about by experiencing it. We do the video in real time and our attendees get to see all the questions answered as we describe what is going on, what is important and what each part means. Usually it takes more than four trips through a day since the velocity of speech is only 1/4 of the things happening in the market that are important.

To begin, the Generals cannot see the stops placed by the retail of the financial industry. Stops are kept "in house" by the IB in trading futures.

BUT it is true that Generals and I CAN SEE the effects of stops in the DOM and in the T&S. In fact, since I am a parasite of the General type traders, I see everything in a leading way ahead of the actual event.

All of trading takes place in NOW and it is called the Present.

I ask you to have about the right 1/3 of your screen blank as your practice. Some cheapo platforms cannot do this and they cannot keep where you put the unfolding bar in a particular place in that exact place after you set it up that way.

You do this setup and use it forever. Also you ALWAYS have the same SCALE on your charts for each thing you display. Check it out and see if you have a cheapo platforms on your hands.

There are two jokes about trading. Most traders have never seen the market and second, most traders are so poor they are full time traders. A lot of these full time people try to work for others who already HAVE stupid full time traders working for them. Experts do not have to trade full time.

So if you can get set up, you can draw a heliotrope vertical line on your screen that will always stay in that position where you put it.

Draw the line to the right of the forming bar which stays in a set place bar after forming bar. This is the place where you know absolutely what is happening as the future comes into the Present where all trading takes place. The space to the right where the heliotrope line is, is approximately one event to the right, give or take.

It is where you get the one-on-one pieces of two sets to be connecting at the place called "anticipation" (with sufficientcy and, therefore, certainty)

That is where all your questions would be coming from.

Between this line and the Present line, there is no risk and no money management ever required.

One piece comes from sensing and the other piece come from the fully differentiated spectrum that has been built in the mind.

You can put off this one-on-one automated matching by simply spending time making up rules in the absence of the fully differentiated spectrum.

This means you continue to get tells from the market and not do "I accept" and TRUST never comes into your partnership.

The symptons of this absence are fear, anxiety, anger, being a detractor.

TRUST is accompanied by feelings of support, comfort and confidence. If a tinge of the CW (conventional wisdom) feelings appears, then you know you are not getting differentiated through the on going workings of your mind.

You are not "knowing that you know" where the heliotrope line is set.

There are two walls in the DOM; rich guys have limit orders piled up on top of each other and they DO NOT KNOW IT OR ARE STUPID.

THERE IS ONE WALL ON EACH SIDE OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

On my machine I show these as red diamonds and green diamonds on the price chart. These are where the Generals are "HOPING AND HOPING".

They are rich and they have the margin to set limit orders away from the market to have a FIFO advantage @ a given value.

I trade ahead of them in the fast lane so I do not have to deal with FIFO ever. I am always in so I never have any orders sitting around. I am a special type trader who has no rules I have to follow.

Mentally, I am on the heliotrope line and those who experience watching me know I have my mice and each one has its own purpose.

It is like driving a car. I only use my right foot to control the car. I can never do two things at once.

When I let go of one mouse, I am slowly reaching for another to commence all the partial fills required to reverse.

I am front running the Generals as a parasite.The T&S has a first derivative. So does each side of the DOM. Watch the OTR (tick chart) do zigzags on the BBid/BAsk (the usual sideways market, where no one has ever lost a dime), then watch the ratio of time spent on each as the market grinds down the DOM more on one side than the other.

As you watch the OTR you DECIDE on the harmonic at that time (odd or even). That tells you the spacing of your partial fills when you repeatedly hit TRADE with that particular mouse.

We are talking about stepping in front of the Generals and their FIFO limits most of which will never get traded as the turn happens.

Because of your team's international connections, you communicate on the T&S and the DOM using the units digit of your partial fills. You know of other groups doing the same technique as well. Then there is skype and GTM for punching stuff on the P and V charts.

So do not watch scalars on the screen; watch velocity and acceleration. Do 20 to 40 trades a day to extract 3 to 6 times the daily range.

Here are the answers to all your questions. Sense what is important WHEN it is important. Only sense velocity and acceleration @ the heliotrope vertical line so you "know you know" what is next in the Order Of Events which is the spectrum of your fully differentiated mind.
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