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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:04 | 显示全部楼层
Jan 12, 2009 4:50am
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usdjpy 4 hours chart.
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eur jpy
hi
pattern +elliot
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Jan 12, 2009 5:31am
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nzd usd
nzd usd
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Jan 12, 2009 5:33am
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eur gbp
eur gbp
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Jan 12, 2009 5:37am
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eur usd
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usd chf
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:05 | 显示全部楼层
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Euro breaks 1.33 support
Euro broke the 1.33 support level this morning by 20 pips. This provides a 5th wave down count, and invalidates some bullish counts looking to revisit 1.47 soon. A double 3 could be the alternative, either way we should expect a move to test 1.31 and 1.29 levels if not lower.

Gold also broke the 828 support level, and oil has been moving close to a new low ahead of the others around 37.50. Confirmation is lagging with Swissy and Cable, but it should arrive in time.

The driver is falling equities. Fear trumps interest rate differentials and everything else. Watch the VIX move off its resting spot as stocks fall. This means another wave of deleveraging and risk aversion should pick up, driving USD higher and commodities lower.



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Jan 12, 2009 4:39pm
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Quote:
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good to see you back bro.

happy new year everyone.


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Jan 12, 2009 7:23pm
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My usdchf chart..

Can we count wave 5 as expanding triangle?
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Jan 12, 2009 9:00pm
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EURUSD
FXoffshore,

you should reconsider your EURUSD count based on the "bigger" picture.

Sixer



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Jan 12, 2009 9:24pm
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I subscribe, so I saw that chart. Jim Martens is excellent. Better is the monthly chart from Dec 11th before he changed from bear to bull.

I disagree with him right now only on the short term. He sees Euro going back to 1.60 in 5 waves and I see it going below 1.20 based on the wave count.

Friday he pronounced his certainty that Euro would open higher and make a sharp move higher in wave 3. Today he is having to re-think that count as it has been invalidated by the drop below 1.3310 (wave 4 cannot enter price range of wave 1). Same with Jaime Saettele, they both changed abruptly on Dec 16 when Euro retraced high. I have not sat on the fence or changed.

Jim/Jamie have their reasons, but I think if they drilled down to look carefully at some of the sub-waves, they would be more open to 5 waves down.

I would be interested in what you see as bullish with Euro count right now, with 5 waves down? Do you have a chart to discuss?

The chart below is from my blog: http://vault.bz/2008/11/historic-charts/




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The extent of the decline from above 1.6000 highlights the three-wave advance from 2001. Three-wave movements are corrective so the euro could remain under pressure for some time as a test of the low .80s is possible. - Jim Martens




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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:08 | 显示全部楼层
Jan 13, 2009 10:21am
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UsdCad 15mins chart.
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Jan 13, 2009 1:48pm
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Quote:
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UsdCad 15mins chart.


USD CAD
Perhaps end wave 3
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Jan 13, 2009 1:53pm
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nzd usd
Quote:
Originally Posted by saeidhidari
nzd usd


nzd usd
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Jan 13, 2009 2:20pm
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DXY
INDEX DOLLAR
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Jan 13, 2009 2:27pm
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EUR USD
EUR USD H1
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Jan 13, 2009 2:48pm
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As I posted on EURUSD thread:

Here is another US$ index chart showing it hit today the 61.8% retracement at 2 time retracments for today and tomorrow. I am thinking though that the big fib cluster above at 86.00 area is where a pullback or reversal is more likely though.
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Jan 13, 2009 5:29pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saeidhidari
EUR USD H1

When Euro moves another 55 pips lower, that wave 4 count is invalidated because 4 enters the price territory of 1 at 1.3085 or lower.

Same goes for synthetic DX index, it reached as high as 84.45, and invalidates wave.4 possiblity by breaking 84.70 - only 25 pips away.

Consider a 5 wave down count, as the first leg of impulse pattern, or A of a zig zag.
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Jan 13, 2009 5:38pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sixer
FXoffshore, you should reconsider your EURUSD count based on the "bigger" picture. Sixer

Hi Sixer, did you notice EWI recanted the "Euro going higher" belief today, and changed to 5 waves down?
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Jan 13, 2009 6:01pm
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EWI get it wrong all the time. To think how Prechter is followed at all amazes me.

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Jan 14, 2009 3:09am
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eur usd
eur usd h1 perhaphs end wc
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Jan 14, 2009 3:17am
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eur jpy
eur jpy end pattern bat
end wave b
enter wave c?
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Jan 14, 2009 3:19am
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eur gbp
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perhaps end wave 4
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:22 | 显示全部楼层
China's Shanghai Composite - Monday, April 6, 2009:  
*** Last night, the Shanghai went down -0.23%. The Shanghai is on a "Negative, Relative Strength divergence"  Alert-Watch.  The Accelerator is positive and moving higher, and the Relative Strength is negatively divergent ... I am not liking the action of the Relative Strength right now.



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This is the Shanghai 180 Index ...

**For Today**   The Shanghai 180 is still in an up trend after testing the 5484 level and moving past it.  The Shanghai 180's strength is positive, but negatively divergent, with the Super Accelerator in high positive territory.  (The negatively divergent C-RSI will pose a problem at some point ... for now, the bias is positive but caution should be displayed for the next few days.)  China's stock markets will be closed Monday for Tomb Sweeping Day and re-open on Tuesday.


Just to keep the Shanghai Bubble's drop in perspective, this is the 10 year WEEKLY chart of the Shanghai Composite.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:25 | 显示全部楼层
China's Shanghai Composite - Monday, April 6, 2009:  
*** Last night, the Shanghai went down -0.23%. The Shanghai is on a "Negative, Relative Strength divergence"  Alert-Watch.  The Accelerator is positive and moving higher, and the Relative Strength is negatively divergent ... I am not liking the action of the Relative Strength right now.



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This is the Shanghai 180 Index ...

**For Today**   The Shanghai 180 is still in an up trend after testing the 5484 level and moving past it.  The Shanghai 180's strength is positive, but negatively divergent, with the Super Accelerator in high positive territory.  (The negatively divergent C-RSI will pose a problem at some point ... for now, the bias is positive but caution should be displayed for the next few days.)  China's stock markets will be closed Monday for Tomb Sweeping Day and re-open on Tuesday.


Just to keep the Shanghai Bubble's drop in perspective, this is the 10 year WEEKLY chart of the Shanghai Composite.




China's Shanghai Composite:  Wednesday, April 8th, 2009
*** Last night, the Shanghai went down -3.76%. The Shanghai has been on a "Negative, Relative Strength divergence"  Alert-Watch.  The Accelerator is positive and dropping, and the Relative Strength remains negatively divergent.  I have mentioned that I did NOT like the action of the Relative Strength in the past few days, and I like it even less now.  The Shanghai will pull back further, after which it will need to hold a higher/low or the 5 month up move will be in jeopardy of failing to the downside.



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This is the Shanghai 180 Index ...

**For Today**   The Shanghai 180 is still in an up trend after testing the 5484 level and moving past it, but it should now retest the 5484 support.  The Shanghai 180's strength is positive, but negatively divergent, with the Super Accelerator positive but dropping a bit.   (The negatively divergent C-RSI will pose a problem at some point ... for now, the bias is positive but caution should be displayed for the next few days.  (The 5733 resistance was tested in the past few days, and failed to the downside yesterday.)


Just to keep the Shanghai Bubble's drop in perspective, this is the 10 year WEEKLY chart of the Shanghai Composite.



China's Shanghai Composite:
Friday, April 3, 2009
*** Last night, the Shanghai went down -0.23%. The Shanghai is on a "Negative, Relative Strength divergence"  Alert-Watch.  The Accelerator is positive and moving higher, and the Relative Strength is negatively divergent ... I am not liking the action of the Relative Strength right now.



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This is the Shanghai 180 Index ...

**For Today**   The Shanghai 180 is still in an up trend after testing the 5484 level and moving past it.  The Shanghai 180's strength is positive, but negatively divergent, with the Super Accelerator in high positive territory.  (The negatively divergent C-RSI will pose a problem at some point ... for now, the bias is positive but caution should be displayed for the next few days.)  China's stock markets will be closed Monday for Tomb Sweeping Day and re-open on Tuesday.


Just to keep the Shanghai Bubble's drop in perspective, this is the 10 year WEEKLY chart of the Shanghai Composite.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:27 | 显示全部楼层
China's Shanghai Composite: Monday, November 17, 2008
Is something brewing in the Chinese stock market that could eventually have a "spill over" effect on
the U.S. stock market?
After a horrible one year drop on the Shanghai Composite, there are now signs of stabilization where the Chinese stock market could finally work on establishing a hold-able bottom.  If it can now make a higher/low followed by a higher/high, then the odds will be in place for it to have a retracement rally to the upside.  
That would be conducive with internal infrastructure investments made by the Chinese government which could in turn have a positive influence on our markets in the coming weeks.
Let's look at what is happening in China ...
Last night, the Shanghai moved up 2.22%.  As we have been pointed out, the S.T. Accelerator was in negative territory and showing a possibility of reversing up and the RSI was holding at its support line.  Last week, the S.T. Accelerator went into positive territory.  There is an upside bias with a positive divergence taking effect now. The Shanghai Composite tested its long term weekly resistance and broke above it. This now increases the bias to the upside for the Shanghai Composite.  The Shanghai 180 shares still has its Super Accelerator in Negative territory, so a transition to an upside rally will likely be choppy and volatile until the Shanghai Composite establishes a higher/low followed by a higher/high.


This is a Point & Figure chart on the Shanghai Composite Index.  Note the upside breakout of the one year resistance line.  The Shanghai Composite has now finished its one year drop and will now work on establishing a bottom support for moving higher longer term.

This is the Shanghai 180 Shares showing that its Super Accelerator is still negative which indicates that there is still bottom formation work necessary for a future up rally.


Just to keep the Shanghai Bubble's drop in perspective, this is the 10 year WEEKLY chart of the Shanghai Composite.
*** Note the resistance line we drew last Wednesday.  The Shanghai Composite tested that resistance last and broke to the upside.


China's Shanghai Composite ... Yesterday's comments: The Shanghai Composite tested its long term weekly resistance and broke above it. This now increases the bias to the upside for the Shanghai Composite.  The Shanghai 180 shares still has its Super Accelerator in Negative territory, so a transition to an upside rally will likely be choppy and volatile until the Shanghai Composite establishes a higher/low followed by a higher/high.
See additional comments below the chart ...










The Shanghai Composite is facing a major, critical test...
As we discussed yesterday, the Shanghai Composite is now at a major, critical support level as seen in the chart below.
Last night, the Shanghai Composite closed down -0.78%.  This remains a critical level to hold, or the Shanghai could experience a precipitous drop from here.  If that should happen, it would put a lot of downside pressure on our stock market as well.  Investors should now keep an eye BOTH ... the Shanghai as well as the U.S. markets.
Comments: Note the Relative Strength graph at the top of the chart.  The RSI appears to be holding a support line just as the Shanghai's price is at a major long term support test. So, this is the "big test" for the Shanghai Composite right now.  
In spite of the RSI finding some support, our S.T. Accelerator is Negatively below its horizontal signal line and not showing any upside strength.  If the S.T. Accelerator does not improve quickly, we will see an increased breakdown in the Shanghai's strength.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
China's Bubble makes our Internet Bubble look like a pip-squeak ...
Many people think back to our old Internet Bubble and have recollections of the downside pain that followed the Bubble's correction.  
China's Bubble is making our Internet Bubble look like a pip-squeak.  Some say that Chinese stocks are still at a good value, but they are not.  Some say that the Shanghai Index will keep going up until after the Olympics next year.  At the current rate of acceleration, that would have the Shanghai move from 5277 to 15831.  The equivalent of that feat is for the DOW to move from yesterday's 13363 to 40089 by next September.
How much has the Shanghai gone up since last September?  The Answer is went from 1752 to 5277.
If you recall, this past February, I posted an update with this headline, "Let me say this very simply ... China's Stock Market will Crash sometime this year".  
We have 3 months and 3 weeks to go before the end of the year, and if the current rate of acceleration went unabated, the Shanghai would close at 8543 at the end of December.  I still believe that the probability is very high that a large correction will occur on the Shanghai before the end of the year. This adds an additional risk level to the current market condition.




China Update: The Real Story ...
Chinese Government officials got real worried when the Shanghai continued its parabolic rise and blew through its 12 year Major resistance level.
This morning, their markets dropped over 6% after the government increased the stamp tax on Security transactions. The news media are making a “big deal” out of the tax increase by running headlines that say, “China China's CSI 300 Drops After Transaction Tax Tripled”.
Tripling any tax sounds like something terrible being inflicted on Chinese investors, but that is not the real story. The real story is that the stamp tax was initiated in the early 90’s at 0.6%.  That’s six tenths of 1% …not much of a tax rate by any standards. Over time, they lowered the tax rate to 0.1% to promote investing in their stock market. Yes, today  they tripled it, but that only took it to 0.3% or one half of what it was when it started.

When was the last time the Chinese government raised the tax and what happened afterwards? It was in May of 1997, and the tax was increased from 0.3% to 0.5%. The next day, the Shanghai Composite rose 2.3%. And then, slowly over the next 10 weeks, the Shanghai dropped just under 30%.

At 0.3%, the tax may not be high enough to get the desired effect the government wants ... here is why:  

From February 7 of this year to May 29th., the Shanghai Composite rose 70.6% or about 1.18% per day.  A 0.30% tax can be paid off from the first 99.43 minutes of the average trading day in China.  This big "Tripling tax rates" that the media is touting is peanuts compared to the average daily return.  See the chart below for the calculations.

This morning's reaction was a knee-jerk reaction that still left the Shanghai Composite Index above its support line as seen in our chart below.  If it breaks through the support level tomorrow morning, then it could drop 500 points for another 12% drop.  There is a good probability that it would rebound back up from there forcing the Chinese government to initiate another tax increase.  It is more likely that the second increase to around 0.5% would get the desired action that the government wants.  
China had a bear market from 2001 to 2005.  At that time, their key index fell from 2,300 to under 1,000 points while their economy grew by about 10 percent per year.  The World Bank just raised its forecast of China's economic growth this year to 10.4 %, from the previous 9.6 % projection.
A 20% drop on the Shanghai would cause a modest impact on their economy according to J.P. Morgan.  A 50% drop would do significant damage to their citizens and economy with a strong likelihood that the Chinese would protest with public demonstrations and civil disorder.  The current sentiment of many Chinese investors is that they shouldn't sell because only then would they have a "real loss".  I announced early in the year that China would have a stock market crash sometime this year.  I don't feel that this is it right now, but it is the beginning of a process where a China crash will unfold from.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:31 | 显示全部楼层
Important China Warning Update: What is China's Zhou Xiaochuan going to do now?
Zhou Xiaochuan is the governor of the People’s Bank of China. Like us, he knows that the Chinese stock markets are in a bubble and he is very worried about a precipitous decline.  His power on making such comments, comes from the fact, that in the past, Chinese investors always took the Government's work as "Gospel".
In the past, all he had to do was "issue a public warning" and investors would listen to him.  Now, Chinese investors are ignoring him.  He even tried sending out a wake up call by having 3 major, State run newspapers run headline stories decreeing his warning on Tuesday.  Instead of the market pulling back, it jumped up 3% in one day.
That now leaves him only one option.  If they won't listen to what he says, he will have to initiate some kind of banking/government action that will force Chinese investors to slow down.
The Worse timing in the world?
If Zhou just waits until next week, the Shanghai will hit its Major 12 year resistance and should pull back on its own.  About the worse thing he can do, is to initiate action to force the Shanghai down right when it is ready to go down on its own.  That "double whammy" could have some very nasty, unexpected results for Zhou.

He is stuck.  If he doesn't do anything and the Shanghai goes into a "blow off" beyond the 12 year resistance, then he is in big trouble and will be blamed for not stopping it.

If he initiates actions that forces the market down, just as it is ready to retract on its own, that could give it a damaging nasty fall beyond what would have happened.  If that happens, he have to take the blame for a damaging correction.  
His best course of action is to just wait until next week and let the Shanghai hit its 12 year resistance.  The  time for him to have done something was months ago.
This morning's Shanghai update ...

Action on the Shanghai has been straight up this week.  Two weeks ago, it was 13% away from it 12 year target, and this morning, it is only 3.7% away.  If it continues at this pace, it will reach the Major Resistance before next Wednesday morning.  

Like all bubbles that have gone straight up in parabolic fashion, their retreat is a reverse, sharp move to the downside.  Take a moment to look at the chart below from the last Fall until now.  Its a picture of a bubble, that is about as big as you will ever see in your lifetime.

The danger in all this, is a spill over into the worldwide markets.  In February, a large Chinese pullback had our market drop.  In a short period of days, we rebounded and so did the Shanghai.  This time, some  "Expert Analyst" on the Chinese situation are saying that, "The link between the Chinese economy and the  Chinese stock market is not that strong ... and therefore will have minimal impact".

Minimal impact on what?  They are suggesting that a Shanghai correction will have minimal "long term" impact on the Chinese economy.  That's is very probable and possible.  However, in the mean time, and in the short term, a sizeable drop would cause a panic.  People react irrationally in a panic, and fear breads fear until things stabilize and confidence comes back.  I really don't think it is possible to have an "isolated" panic reaction by Chinese investors that does not, somehow, spill over into the rest of the investing world. If we were not so inextricably tied together as trading countries, I would agree that it wouldn't affect our markets.  If it was a country like the Dominican Republic, the world would hardly take notice.
How long have we been pointing out an upcoming Shanghai drop?  
We started our first Alert in early February, and have kept you updated every week since then ... and now ...

Goldman Sachs issued a China Warning this morning ...

Now it is May 10th., and this morning, Goldman Sachs Group just announced that, "China's stocks may face a "correction''  as valuations have exceeded earnings prospects after the benchmark index almost tripled in the past year."
They went on to say ...  The Shanghai is valued at 42 times reported earnings, more than double the Morgan Stanley Capital International Asia Pacific Index's 19 times.  China's investors opened over 350,000 new brokerage accounts on Tuesday. (This was the same day that Zhou published his warning in the 3 Major Newspapers). This was the highest daily amount of new accounts opened since June 2005.

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April 23, 2008:

Somewhere between May 2nd. and June 14th, the Shanghai is going to do something very unusual in the realm of stock market indexes.
The Shanghai Composite Index has catapulted up in a parabolic trajectory that took it from 1180.96 in January of 2006 to 3710.88 this morning.  That hefty 214.23% rise resulted in a hyper-parabolic rise that has the index going straight up ... and many think that there is no end in sight.
No end in sight?  But, there is ... a very long, 12 year major resistance point will be reached, somewhere in between an index level of 4189 to 4231 between now and June 14th. if the Shanghai Composite just remains on its current trajectory since March 19th. of this year.   Our internet bubble trajectory is being dwarfed by the speed and rise of the Shanghai Index.

The odds of a sharp reversal back down at that point is extremely high, because parabolic movements like this become exponentially more difficult as the trajectory's angle increases.

It would be a lot better for all of us, if the Shanghai corrected tomorrow morning, rather than risk a crash that would reverberate through the world indexes.  The Chinese are worried that it will be the U.S. markets that take down the markets, but it is more likely that they will be the ones to take the other stock market indexes down.  See the next chart ...

As the Shanghai Composite is going parabolic, the Shanghai 180 is showing signs of trouble ahead.

Below is the 2006 to 2007 chart for this index.  What is note worthy, is that every time the Shanghai 180 has had a negative divergence with its rate of change, the index corrected.  As you can see below, we now have the largest divergence disparity of the past 16 months.  

In the first instance the index went up for 19 days, and then, the next 5 days of correction wiped out the entire previous 19 day up move.
In the second instance the index went up for 44 days, and then, the next 19 days of correction wiped out the entire previous 44 day up move.
What happens if this negative divergence behaves in a similar fashion?  Our down side projection is at least 2000 points and over 25% to the downside.  

While our economy and market may pose some downside risks due to a variety of potential problems, the biggest index related risk on a worldwide basis has to be China's stock market.


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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:32 | 显示全部楼层
April 19th. - China, Shanghai 180 Update:   Yesterday, we warned our paid subscribers with the following: "Day traders and short term traders should be extra cautious today and tomorrow." It is now "tomorrow" ... and this morning, the Shanghai 180 fell 6.93% before a small retracement that took it to a 4.25% loss for the day.
If you recall, we posted this expectation last week, warning members that the Bow Tie Pattern was repeating 100%. The exact, first down day should have been Wednesday, and instead it was off by one day. In spite of being 1 day late, we warned that the probability of falling today was extremely high because the Shanghai 180 had a Doji Star on Tuesday, and  a Spinning Top on Wednesday ... both were candlesticks that typically precede a downside reversal. *** See the chart below, and the previous postings, including last week's analysis and warning.

So the Shanghai is repeating the Bow Tie pattern ... what now?

The last Bow Tie Pattern took the Shanghai 180 down to its support at label C below, so I expect that  this drop will move down to the support once again at label D which is 10.88% from the index's open this morning.  That would take the Shanghai down to a support level of 6568.  


Could it go lower??? ... see the next chart.

This is the Shanghai 180's two year chart showing its parabolic rise that compares to the Internet Bubble we had.

The Shanghai 180 may indeed go lower and end up in a crash as I had previously published on our February 19th. SafeHaven posting: http://www.safehaven.com/showarticle.cfm?id=6945

Here is the updated parabolic Shanghai 180 chart and the divergence warning that it is sending.

While there is a long term support line for 6568, it is now facing another negative divergence pattern as seen below.  Note that the two previous patterns had a divergence drop that  took out the previous 2 and 3 months of up action.  Should the current negative divergence do the same, then the Shanghai could see a 25% drop from yesterday's close.  

This is indeed a bubble, as the Shanghai 180 has gone up 264% since January of last year.  That is the equivalent of our DJI moving up from yesterday's 12803 to 33816 in the next five and a half quarters.  

In February, I said that China would have a crash this year ... we are getting closer  to that event.


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April 18th. - China, Shanghai 180 Update:   The Bow Tie Pattern for the Shanghai is below. Last night was day 5 for being outside the pattern and we expected the Shanghai to move down in order to replicate the pattern.

It didn't go down.  But it had candlestick spinning top ... one of our subscribers called it a Dragonfly Doji. Doji(s) typically appear at market turning points, and we now have a "double Doji" occurrence.  This increases the odds for the Shanghai moving down tonight.

*** The market pull backs or corrections are now happening on unsuspected negative "events".  The Shanghai would be such an event, so with the current double Doji pattern, we will keep our conservative investors in cash as this unfolds.  Day traders and short term traders should be extra cautious today and tomorrow.
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April 17th. Update to Special China Analysis ... (See the full analysis below this update.)
Today is the fourth day after the pattern of the Shanghai 180 breaking out of its rectangle. The last pattern,
in January, had the Shanghai
move up four more days after moving out of the right corner of the rectangle and
then reversed down
.

The current pattern has been an exact repeat, so far.  We are now at the critical point of day
four today.  On the previous pattern, the Shanghai 180 went down on the 5th. day after exiting the outside of the rectangle.
Tomorrow (Wednesday) will be day five.  

If the pattern repeats, then the Shanghai 180 will trend down tomorrow ... before our markets open.
Last night, the Shanghai closed the day with a Doji Star, or what some would call a Long Legged Star.  This is
considered to be a reversal candlestick, but the next day is needed for confirmation ... which will be tomorrow.
It is an interesting coincidence that we have a bearish Doji the day before the Shanghai should move down based on the pattern.

If the pattern repeats, then the Shanghai will move down tomorrow and exert downside pressure on the
international markets.  This will indeed be interesting, because there are huge liquidity injections coming
into our market which is an offsetting force to external downside pressures.  If there is a big enough drop
on the Shanghai tomorrow, then the markets would consider this an "event" and react negatively.


While we won't know if this patterns repeats 100% until tomorrow, we do know that the repeating factor
for this so far has been an extremely rare and unusual event.



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April 11th. China Report and Bow Tie Pattern Analysis ...
Most of you know that I spend at least 15 hours a month on new research or exploring new market patterns.  I found something very unusual going on in the Shanghai Index, unusual enough that I thought it was important to share it with you ...

Will the Shanghai 180 Index correct within 4 days and take our markets down with it?

This morning, we made a very interesting observation about the Shanghai 180 Index.  The Shanghai is an index that we are watching pretty closely due to its correlation with our Feb. 27th. market drop.

I will show you two Shanghai 180 charts this morning with a very interesting pattern.

The first chart shows the Shanghai from last year to this year.  As you know, as an index or market  continues to have a bull rise, the angle of ascent increases.  If you look at the first three rectangles,  you can see how the price action moves up at higher angles as the rally moves forward.

Each rectangle is the same size and shape depicting the same time periods.  I drew a line from the lower corner to the upper corner of each rectangle and this gives you equal slopes for each area.

Now ... see the next chart for the fascinating pattern.

This chart is a close up of the last two rectangles.

Now, for the fascinating pattern ...
I drew a triangle that encompassed the move of the first 9 days that held the trend line on the first rectangle.

I then duplicated the triangle's size 3 more times and overlaid them on the remaining parts of both rectangles.

In the first rectangle, the upper triangle ends above the rectangle's box and marks the exact peak and reversal of the Shanghai 180.  Pretty amazing symmetry.

So in rectangle 1, this is what occurred:

a. The index moved up for 9 days holding its trend line.
b. The index moved on the right side of the trend line and remained below the second triangle for 2 days.
c. It then completed the second 9 day move on the underside of the trend line and reached the upper corner of the rectangle.
d. It then moved up another 4 more days in order to reach the top of the same sized triangle.
e. After reaching that point the Shanghai corrected.

Now let's look at the second rectangle:

a. The index moved up for 9 days holding its trend line.
b. The index moved on the right side of the trend line and remained below the second triangle for 2 days.
c. It then completed the second 9 day move on the underside of the trend line and reached the upper corner of the rectangle.

That's were we are now ... 3 exact pattern repeats so far.

The interesting question is ... Will (d) and (e) also repeat this exact pattern?

If it does, then the Shanghai will make its high in 4 days and then correct again.
The Shanghai January 31st. correction didn't really affect our markets, but the Shanghai February 27th. correction did.  If this pattern repeats, then by the middle of next week, the Shanghai will correct with a good possibility that it takes our markets with it.

Comments: We don't really know if (d) and (e) will follow the same pattern, and if the Shanghai would then correct and affect our markets.  We do know that this is a very fascinating pattern that is repeating itself 100% so far.  I know that this is some very unusual pattern research, but when my eye can pick out such a pattern with such unusual repeat factors, then I feel it is my duty to at least share the observations with you.  

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:33 | 显示全部楼层
Let me say this very simply ...
China's Stock Market will Crash sometime this year.


I read a Chinese report this morning that said, "It is now estimated that 90% of Chinese loans are going into the equities markets". In an effort to combat this, the Chinese government just raised interest rates on the eve of their lunar New Year.
Somewhere, between now and the next 8 months, three Chinese stock market challenges will likely unfold:
1. The amount of inflowing money into their stock market will have a dramatic decline. There will be no more inflows from those who have already mortgaged their homes, or maxed out their credit cards to raise cash for stock purchases. Where will these people get more money after they are tapped out? For those who haven't yet done so, the government will step in with restrictions and interest rate policies that will help stem this risky practice.
2. Another lurking problem, is the inability of China's present system to handle a sudden spike in volume that would occur in the event of investors rushing to sell. This creates a high probability that the government will have to "shut the Shanghai Index down" when such an event occurs. The government is already worried about this, and about the possible social instability that this could cause in their country. Think of it this way ... many Chinese citizens have all their life savings and assets in the stock market. For many Chinese investors, the stock market "is their bank". If they need cash, or are become afraid of the market dropping, there will "be a run on the bank" ... just like we experienced in the 20's. There won't be the necessary volume of buyers to soak up the volume being sold by sellers unless the government buys the stocks being sold.
3. In an L.A. Times article, they told the story about the Jinbao borrower who took out a $40,000 mortgage to invest in the market. (This is now a common occurrence in China.) When warned that he might suffer losses, he said, "I have targeted one good stock and I just need the money for one month". Think about it ... the unrealistic expectations in this mania are at an extreme. The investor's "expectation" is that he will make "a 100% return in 1 month". What happens if it doesn't go up, and the stock falls while he is required to meet the payments on loan with a 36% annual interest rate?
It will be quiet on the Shanghai index this week, because financial markets are closed Monday in mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and Malaysia for the Lunar New Year holiday. Markets in Hong Kong and Malaysia will reopen Wednesday, while markets on the Chinese mainland and Taiwan will remain closed all week and reopen next Monday, Feb. 26.
Next week, many Chinese investors will plow more money in the Shanghai because it is the beginning of the new year of double luck and prosperity. Unless their government does something to quell the enthusiasm, they are likely to see another record week with a 10% to 15% rise. This is a game of musical chairs, and when the music stops, only a few will find chairs to sit on.
In a rebuttal, I received a call from a subscriber. He said that he has visited China and that the Chinese government will not allow the Shanghai index to fall.
How are they going to do that ... when they haven't been able to stop the Shanghai from rising 11.5% per week ... every week, for the last six and a half weeks? If they put in restrictions that stops this 10%+ rise per week, what will happen when those who borrowed at 36% interest rates can't make the payments the following month? (See the L.A. Times article below.)
How are they going to do that, when they have already put restrictions in where no one can take out a mortgage or loan and put the money in the stock market ... and yet by their own report, 90% of the loans are still going into the stock market?
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We are now going to shift to our charts of China's stock market.
On Monday, we reported that the Shanghai 180 Index had an 11.5% average weekly rise over a six and a half week period.
It had a pull back on February 5th., landed exactly on a support line, and moved back up from that point.
Here is how it moved:
The low on February 5th. was 5056. This morning, the Shanghai 180 was up to 6116.
If you do the math, it went up 1060 points or 20.97% in 9 days. It is now at a new high on its parabolic up move as seen in the chart below. When do you remember any of our indexes going up 20.97% in a year, much less doing it in 9 days? How long do you think this bubble will last?
( Also see these previous links: www.stocktiming.com/China1.htm and www.stocktiming.com/China2.htm )

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:33 | 显示全部楼层
Today will be a more extensive update with a total of 5 charts.  We will revisit the bubble that just expanded in China, and then compare the broad market action relative what Institutional Investors are doing. (After a dip on February 5th. the Shanghai 180 Index proceeded to rise 20.97% in just 9 days.)

This is an important update, so let's start today's analysis ...
Institutional Investors vs. the Average Investor ...
The S&P 500 is regarded as a good measurement of the economy by many investors.  The reason, is that it represents some of the best stocks with the widest representation across many different sectors.

At the other end of the spectrum, are the Institutional and "core holding stocks" that are in their portfolios.  As a group, this can be expressed as an Index as seen below.
What is important on this first chart, is the relationship of what Institutional Investors are doing, compared to what the average investor is doing in the markets.

Note the nearly exact correlation of the S&P 500 and what the Institutions did from July of last year to December.

At no time, did the Institutions do anything but support the markets rise from July to December.  This was important for a strong market rally, because over 50% of the market's volume comes from Institutional Investors.

Now, look at both the S&P 500 and the Institutional Index from mid December to yesterday.  There is
clearly a divergence.  While the S&P 500 has been moving up, the Institutional Index went sideways.

There is saying that Institutional investors have stopped supporting the market's rally and the market is now being propelled up without the help of Institutions.  See chart 2 ...


The above were line charts, and now we will look at the bar charts for both indexes.

What do you see now?  The S&P 500 is showing an up Channel in movement, while the Institutional index is in a clear trading range.  This is a departure from Institutional behavior that started last July.

Both of these charts are showing lack of support from Institutions in this aging rally.

While this won't stop the rally immediately, there will come a point where the average investor will not be able to keep the rally moving on his own ... he will simply run out of steam.  If Institutional investors decided to start taking profits next week, this rally would end very quickly.  

What if Institutions "change their mind" and start buying aggressively?  Obviously, in that case, they would send the market up in an exuberant move.

Will Institutions start buying again anytime soon?  I don't have the answer to that.  But, as one Institutional investor said ... It is hard to get excited now, after 67% of the companies reported "forward guidance" with lower expectations. This is the highest negative guidance number in 8 quarters of reporting.

So ... obviously we have a disparity in the markets.  The question is, "when and how will it be resolved?"


We are now going to shift to China's stock market.

On Monday, we reported that the Shanghai 180 Index had an 11.5% average weekly rise over a six and a half week period.

It had a pull back on February 5th., landed exactly on a support line, and moved back up from that point.

Here is how it moved:

The low on February 5th. was 5056.  This morning, the Shanghai 180 was up to 6116.

If you do the math, it went up 1060 points or 20.97% in 9 days.  It is now at a new high on its parabolic
up move as seen in the chart below. When do you remember any of our indexes going up 20.97% in a year, much less doing it in 9 days?  How long do you think this bubble will last?  

                     
That was the Shanghai 180 Index ... what about the Shanghai Composite Index?
Here is how it moved:

It hit its low on February 6th. at 2541. This morning, the Shanghai Composite was up to 2993.

If you do the math, it went up 452 points or 17.79% in 8 days. It will have a new closing high today.

This week, I had several emails about the Institutional divergence and the Shanghai stock market
with comments that essentially boiled down to this: So what?  Big Deal ... don't you know that this
is a Goldilocks economy?  The exuberant attitude, and apathy about situations that should be of
concern may well be a contrarian's warning sign.
                           
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:34 | 显示全部楼层
Danger ahead for China?

U.S. Investors would be quite happy if the S&P went up 11.5% in a year.  What would you think if the S&P suddenly went up 11.5% per week ... every WEEK, for six and a half weeks?   A total move of 74.8% in less than two months?

I discussed the Shanghai 180 Index last week with our paid subscribers.   From November 13th. of last year to January 29th., it went up 74.8% as Chinese buyers took out mortgages and charge card advances so they could "jump in" on the get rich train.  If the same pace were to last one year, the Shanghai would go up 598%.  
Let's put this into perspective.  At the height of the internet bubble, from November 1999 to March 2000, the NASDAQ 100 went up 86.5%.  That was over a 22 week period, and the average rise per week was 3.93%.  That was a greed driven bubble that had a precipitous drop.  By the following March, the NASDAQ 100 had dropped from a peak of 4918 to 1573 ...  or 68%.

That was unquestionably a bubble.  Now compare the 3.93% weekly bubble rise we had to the Shanghai 11.5% weekly rise. Three weeks ago, a colleague said that Chinese shoe-shine boys were getting into the market.  Who's left to get in?  Soon, the shoe-shine boy will lose his shoes, and his shirt.  The effect this will have on Chinese consumers, loans in default, and banking problems will not be good.  

When the Shanghai tanks, it is unlikely that the world stock markets will keeping trucking along like nothing ever happened. It could very well be the precipitating event that ends this rally. At a rate of increase that would project out to 598% per year, it isn't a question of IF, but WHEN the Shanghai index will have a violent downside correction.

The Shanghai 180 chart is below:   (Charts and commentary also continues below.)

Let's look at the long term weekly view of the Shanghai 180 and compare it to our NASDAQ 100 bubble
we had.

The Chinese Shanghai Index looks like our old NASDAQ chart ... the only difference, is the speed at which it is happening on the Shanghai is faster.  


In case we forgot what happened to the NASDAQ 100 after our Internet bubble collapse, the NASDAQ 100'S full view to last Friday is posted below ...

China's stock market is no different than ours.  There is nothing special about China that exempts them from a fall when greed and exuberance gets out of control.  

The only question is when does it happen?   In 1929, our market zoomed up, had a pull back and went to a new high before crashing.  In 2000, we never made it to a new high ... we just kept going down over time.  Which pattern China will follow is unknown, but it is hard to imagine that a market that has been moving up 11.5% per week can sustain this pace for very long.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:38 | 显示全部楼层
Investor tip for the week of April 7th...

Wednesday, April 9th. - The Secret of using the VIX (Volatility Index) for confirming changes in the Stock Market's direction.

Today we will look at the VIX, volatility levels, and the short term action on the S&P 500 index.
The VIX often gives good confirming clues about the market's direction, but it takes a keen ability in properly drawing support and resistance lines.  
As you will see in today' chart below, the market correlations are very good ... and worth the effort of tracking the VIX.
Since the VIX moves "opposite to the market", I INVERTED the VIX on this 60 minute chart so it would correlate with the movements on the S&P 500.
If you spend a minute just observing the chart, you will see why tracking the VIX is an important tool.
One of the typical "behaviors" exhibited on the VIX is what happens relative to gap up or gap down events.
Look at the chart, and observe that when a gap occurs on the VIX, it typically confirms the shift of direction on the  S&P 500.   Sometimes, the VIX gap occurs before the directional change on the S&P.  That happened at the end of December last year.  
Note that gap was never filled ... until 2 PM on Monday afternoon of this week.  The VIX then was not able to move past that point.  At the same time, the S&P reached and tested its 2008 resistance line ... and retreated upon testing it.
What to look for now ...
The Gap has been filled.  So now the big test is facing the VIX and the S&P 500 at the same time.
For a upside continuation of the market's movement, we will now want to see the S&P move ABOVE its resistance line, and for the VIX to move above its resistance line. Preferably, you want to see the VIX gap below a level of 21 for a confirmation.  (Don't forget that I inverted the VIX on this chart!)
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 11:43 | 显示全部楼层
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EUR AUD
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Quote:
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hi,

agree with you. i think .884 was the end of wave 4, and we may look for 1 more wave UP..



wave 4 (1-2-3-4-5)!!!!

corection made A-B-C

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EUR GBP
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EUR GBP

Hi Saeid,

Do you have a count for the GBP/USD?

Thanks

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pipeye
Hi Saeid,

Do you have a count for the GBP/USD?

Thanks



No i dont have a count for the gbp usd

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GBPUSD roughly. I am not too confident about it though, dunno what this 4 is going to do (stay within red lines or break out downwards into 5??)- could go up the next days to form a triangle- not good for trading imo.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 11:43 | 显示全部楼层
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CABLE Wave probabilities
My wave analysis on cable for reference and comment
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You have 5 posts, better take that link out of your message or you might get a time-out i.e. temporary ban. Check the forum rules.

Edit: only because someone else might have said something or been spotted. It doesn't bother me any.
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EU 4H chart:
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Quote:
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You have 5 posts, better take that link out of your message or you might get a time-out i.e. temporary ban. Check the forum rules.

Edit: only because someone else might have said something or been spotted. It doesn't bother me any.


Thanks bro 4 the advice
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Jan 15, 2009 2:40am
saeidhidari
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eur uad
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  #1199   
Jan 15, 2009 3:07am
saeidhidari
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GBP JPY
GBP JPY
head& sholder

end wave 3
start wave c:4

perhaps
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Jan 15, 2009 5:23am
lancelot41
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USD/CHF
Hellooo traders,

I am back on this forum after a long time to see how you guys are doing, I also attached the Usd/Chf pair.

I am curretnly looking the Usd/Chf which wasn’t been able to break through 1.1300 resistance area, so the market came out with more complex wave iv correction. As you see bellow, we probably have the case of triangle structure ahead of some important releases. From technical view, we could have nice buy singal if the 1.1235 area gets broken through with targets on upside Fibo extension and projection levels. But patiently, firstly we need to find direction of the dollar; The Gold is currently trading up after touching the 800 dollars which is dollar negative at the moment; there is also similar situation on the Oil chart from $35.50. The European stocks are also trading up right now after 1.5% of losses in the opening hour. All in all, markets need to break these lows of the sessions before the Usd/Chf will be able to continue higher.

The triangle wave count will be valid as long the wave c) lows will hold..
Grega H.




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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 11:46 | 显示全部楼层
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geppy daily count.
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Jan 15, 2009 11:28pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot41
Hellooo traders,

I am back on this forum after a long time to see how you guys are doing, I also attached the Usd/Chf pair.

I am curretnly looking the Usd/Chf which wasn’t been able to break through 1.1300 resistance area, so the market came out with more complex wave iv correction. As you see bellow, we probably have the case of triangle structure ahead of some important releases. From technical view, we could have nice buy singal if the 1.1235 area gets broken through with targets on upside Fibo extension and projection levels. But patiently,...



Great to see u in this thread. Thanks for posting.
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Jan 16, 2009 12:47am
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hi all,

my NzdUsd 4hours chart.
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Jan 16, 2009 6:16am
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USD-CHF
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
Great to see u in this thread. Thanks for posting.

Hey blue bottle, thank you. I aslo enjoy to seeing your wave counts as well.

I am attachnig another, the updated Usd/Chf chart.


The triangle was definitely the case yesterday when we saw a move to new weekly highs, but not for long as the prices made a turning point exactly at 1.1300 resistance area, as we recently discussed. On almost every currency pair we could notice over-bought dollar in some important Fibo levels. Gold also bounced from $800 area, and still didn’t been able to break through the trend line support. Oil is currently also trading around $3 above the lows, while the European equities are 2% higher after the gains in the Asia trade. So, all these is definitely dollar negative which means we should be looking to sell dollars in today’s session as long the things will stay as they are right now. Well, the Usd/Chf chart below is signaling for the dollar corrective mode which means we may see CHF buyers in today’s session who will try to push the Usd/Chf pair down to 50% Fibonacci retracement of wave 1. Elliott wave traders could be looking for red wave c move, which will probably be confirmed once the lows of red wave a and the trend line will be taken out.



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Jan 16, 2009 1:54pm
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first chart
hello EWcounters,

i am so new to elliott wave, just reading other people's charts is hard.
i follow this thread daily, to see if i can make sense of different counts.

i've read Frost and Prechters book. after this i did not put any labels on charts.

i hoped the Glenn Neely book would provide some practical guidence.... there is so much guidence from Neely... too much for me

yesterday the Robert C. Miner book disscused here arrived and today i counted my first piece of chart.

this is it. if i am way off please let me know. i hope to post some decent charts in the near future

greets, jacco
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Jan 16, 2009 3:27pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j-pax
hello EWcounters,

i am so new to elliott wave, just reading other people's charts is hard.
i follow this thread daily, to see if i can make sense of different counts.

i've read Frost and Prechters book. after this i did not put any labels on charts.

i hoped the Glenn Neely book would provide some practical guidence.... there is so much guidence from Neely... too much for me

yesterday the Robert C. Miner book disscused here arrived and today i counted my first piece of chart.

this is it. if i am way off please let me know. i hope to post...


Hey j-pax, wellcome here....

to be honest your charts its perfect, really good one!!!

And what your charts tells you?
that the five wave move is probably completed and this means only once; that at least three wave move of the correction should follow. And you already labelled your first wave of the retrace (blue wave a in your case) correctly, so, now we should be looking for a wave b pullback and then higher c, which would confirm simple zigzag correction move.

Good job;

Grega H.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 11:46 | 显示全部楼层
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marketwavez
Us Dollar

Usd/Chf
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Double Bottom Formation ?
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Us Dollar

ok ,

It's been a week

- Here's where we are now ! ................

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Jan 16, 2009 9:02pm
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[quote=marketwavez;2475035]
Us Dollar

ok ,

It's been a week

- Here's where we are now ! ................

[/unquote]

mw,

A little smaller of the chart pic size please. Scrolling back and forth sucks.

Anyway USDCHF is not a market I watch regularly but your Wave 4 ABC looks like the Wave C is not really a 5 wave.

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Jan 17, 2009 3:07am
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i see this usd/chf a little differently
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Jan 17, 2009 5:09am
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EURUSD wave 5 - target 1.2850
Wave 4 almost complete. Wave 5 to target 1.2850
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  #1211   
Jan 18, 2009 6:05am
j-pax
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thanks for the kind words lancelot.

a question: is it common for pairs with different base currencies to correct or trend at the same time?
my usdjpy and eurusd charts turned from 5 to A almost at the same time.

i am curious if this has some meaning or is just chance.
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