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发表于 2008-1-23 18:23 |

China’s parallel universe fades

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"According to Jonathan Anderson, economist at UBS, the apparent link between markets was likely to be a “one or two month thing” because the Shanghai market was still relatively sheltered from cross-border capital flows. “The mainland market will probably remain decoupled,” he said.":*19*:

China’s parallel universe fades
By Geoff Dyer in Shanghai

Published: January 23 2008 01:43 | Last updated: January 23 2008 01:43

There have been many casualties in the past few days of stunning share price declines and one of those could be the idea that the Chinese market operates in its own parallel universe.

Mainland shares had attracted a huge amount of overseas interest in recent months, not just because of the two-year surge in share prices but also because some investors hoped China’s relatively closed capital market could act as a hedge against more inter-linked global markets. When New York, London or Hong Kong went in one direction, Shanghai often seemed to go the other way.

In the past two days, the main Shanghai index is down 12 per cent, compared to 13.7 per cent for the Hang Seng index. Shanghai is now down 26 per cent from its high on October 16, while Hong Kong is 32 per cent off its October 30 record.

“The Chinese market is becoming more and more integrated into the global market and its movements will be correlated with movements overseas,” said Zhong Hua, analyst at Changjiang Securities in Shanghai.

Although a few days’ figures do not make a trend, some analysts believe there are good reasons for the Chinese market to start to reflect global investor sentiment. The capital flows coming in and out of the mainland market are relatively modest and closely policed by the authorities but they could be starting to change the psychology of mainland investors.

Under the government’s quota system, foreign investors are only a small part of the market, but their investment strategies are widely discussed by local investors, while the launch last year of international equity funds for Chinese investors has boosted awareness of overseas markets among mainland share-buyers.

Meanwhile, the growth in the domestic fund management business – which had about Rmb3,300bn ($456bn) in assets under management at the end of 2007 – has also introduced more professional investment management and attention to relative valuations.

“The flows are not huge, but they have helped introduce a change in the investment philosophy in China,” said a Hong Kong based investment analyst, who asked not to be named. “It means that people pay a lot more attention to what is going on in the rest of the world and valuations in other markets.”

Not everyone is convinced, however, that mainland stocks will be so influenced by the global mood.

Fraser Howie, co-author of a book on the Chinese stock market, says the immediate cause of the recent share price falls in Shanghai has been fears about the impact of a US slowdown – just as in other Asian markets – which escalated rapidly in recent days.

However, he warned against reading too much into the share movements. “Nothing has really changed in terms of the linkages between China and the rest of the word,” he said.

There was a good chance that the mainland market would rally again on its own steam, fuelled by the huge amount of money sitting in low-yielding bank deposits, high profit growth and more general Olympics-related optimism. “It is not clear that the bull market is over yet,” he said.

According to Jonathan Anderson, economist at UBS, the apparent link between markets was likely to be a “one or two month thing” because the Shanghai market was still relatively sheltered from cross-border capital flows. “The mainland market will probably remain decoupled,” he said.

There are also plenty of home-grown factors that can explain some of the recent pessimism in the mainland market. Over the weekend, Ping An Insurance announced a $22bn share issue, which is nearly double the country’s largest initial public offering and exacerbated existing fears about a glut of new issues coming onto the market. Ping An shares fell by the daily limit of 10 per cent on Tuesday, on top of the 10 per cent on Monday.

Investors are also concerned that the holders of formerly non-tradeable shares, whose legal status was changed under an on-going government reform plan, will sell the paper as the lock-up period ends. HSBC calculates that Rmb1,400bn of tradeable shares will be added to the market float this year under the reform.

And just as investors in the US appeared to be unimpressed by the Bush administration’s planned fiscal stimulus package, Chinese investors have also been concerned by some of their own government’s recent moves, especially the decision last week to impose price controls on certain key food products.

Although some economists, including Mr Anderson at UBS, believe the measures will be temporary and inflation pressures will subside, the decision heightened concerns about inflationary risks in China and the use of such controls struck some investors as a backward step.

The drop in Shanghai share prices this week has demonstrated how linked China’s economy is to the rest of the world, but it is too soon to conclude that Chinese financial markets are humming a global tune.
发表于 2008-1-23 18:26 |
Ping An Insurance   :*22*:  daily limit  活该
发表于 2008-1-23 18:33 |
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发表于 2008-1-23 18:44 |
除了想说一个字:猪 。。。。

那几个字母,炒起股来不见得比猪强多少

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-24 09:59 |

中文翻译版

中国股市也“与国际接轨”?

作者:英国《金融时报》杰夫•代尔(Geoff Dyer)上海报道
2008年1月24日 星期四


过去几日,全球股市连遭重挫,导致大量伤亡。而其中一起伤亡可能是这样一种观点:即中国市场是在自己的平行宇宙中运行。

最近数月来,中国内地股票吸引了很多海外投资者的兴趣,这不仅是因为当地股价在过去两年中大幅攀升,还因为一些投资者希望,相对封闭的中国资本市场能够对冲相联更紧密的全球市场的风险。当纽约、伦敦或香港市场出现同一走势时,上海市场似乎往往是呈现相反的方向。

然而,本周的恐慌抛售不仅让市场更加担心中国的牛市是否确实已经结束,而且中国内地股市还开始紧紧跟随香港与其它国际股市的走向。

  

周一和周二,上海主要股指累计下跌12%,而香港恒生指数(Hang Seng index)下跌13.7%。目前上海股市已较其去年10月16日的峰值下跌26%,而香港股市则较其去年10月30日的纪录高点下跌了32%(编者注:上海和香港股市于周三出现强劲反弹)。

长江证券(Changjiang Securities)驻上海的分析师钟华表示:“中国市场已变得越来越融入全球市场,其走势将与海外市场的走势相互关联。”

虽然几天的数据并不说明趋势,但一些分析师认为,中国市场开始反映全球投资者人气是有原因的。进出中国内地市场的资金流仍然相对较小,并受到政府的严格管制,但它们可能已经开始改变内地投资者的投资心理。

在中国政府的投资限额制度下,外国投资者只构成市场的一小部分,但在当地投资者之中,他们的投资策略得到了广泛讨论,而去年针对中国内地投资者推出的国际股票基金,则提高了内地股民对(投资)海外市场的意识。

与此同时,中国国内基金管理业务的增长——2007年底的管理资产规模约为3.3万亿元人民币(合4560亿美元)——也带来了更多的专业投资管理,并引起人们对相对估值的关注。

“这种资金流并不是非常巨大,但它们对于中国投资理念的变化起到了一定作用,”一位不愿透露姓名的驻香港投资分析师表示。“这意味着人们更加关注全球其它市场的情况,以及其它市场的估值。”

然而,并非每个人都认同中国内地股市将在很大程度上受全球市场人气影响。

侯伟(Fraser Howie)曾经和他人共同撰写过一部关于中国股市的著作。他表示,上海股市近来连续下挫的直接原因,是投资者担忧美国经济放缓的影响,这与亚洲其它市场一样。而近几日,美国经济状况已迅速恶化。

但他警告,投资者不要过分解读股价走势。他表示:“中国与全球其它市场的联系确实没什么变化。”

中国内地股市还是很有可能凭己之力重拾涨势,其推动力量来自银行账户中大量的低收益存款、高利润增长,以及与奥运会有关的、普遍乐观的情绪。他表示:“目前尚不明确牛市是否已经结束。”

瑞银(UBS)经济学家乔纳森•安德森(Jonathan Anderson)表示,市场之间出现表面联系可能只是“一两个月的事情”,原因是上海股市仍然相对不受跨境资金流的影响。他表示:“中国内地股市仍可能维持与全球市场脱钩的状态。”

还有很多内在因素可以解释中国内地股市为何在近期遭遇一些悲观情绪。上周末,平安保险(Ping An Insurance)宣布将发行220亿美元的股票,这加剧了人们当前对于大量新股发行将冲击市场的担忧。继周一跌停之后,平安保险股价周二再次跌到 10%的每日跌停限制。

投资者还担心,前非流通股持有者将在禁售期结束后抛出这些股票。目前仍在进行中的股改已经改变了非流通股的法律地位。汇丰(HSBC)计算,在这项改革措施下,今年将新增价值1.4万亿元人民币的流通股入市。

正如美国投资者似乎没有被布什(Bush)政府的一篮子财政激励计划打动那样,中国投资者同样也对其政府近期的一些举措感到担心,尤其是政府上周做出对某些关键食品进行价格管制的决定。

尽管瑞银的安德森等一些经济学家认为,这一举措将是暂时性的,而通胀压力将有所消退,但这一决定仍然加剧了人们对于中国通胀风险的担心,而且一些投资者认为此类价格管制措施是一种倒退。

本周初上海股市下挫,展示了中国经济如何与全球其它经济联系。但现在就认定中国金融市场开始唱全球股市的调,还为时过早。

译者/李碧波
发表于 2008-1-24 10:01 |

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写的真好!看不懂
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